Tithing Refund

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A man demands his tithe money back because his kids weren't changed after baptism.

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Speaker 1

Hello, uh, I'm trying to reach uh Pastor Henry.

Speaker 2

Uh this Pastor Henry.

Speaker 1

Oh, how you doing, sir?

Speaker 1

You you the pastor of uh Greater New Hope Baptist, right?

Speaker 2

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2

Well, yes I am.

Speaker 2

Man, she's calling.

Speaker 1

My name is Patrick.

Speaker 1

My name's Patrick Davis.

Speaker 1

Uh uh I went there.

Speaker 1

How you doing, sir?

Speaker 1

I I went there uh to your church about uh about two and a half years ago I went there and and me and uh Yeah, we got our kids baptized there at your

Speaker 2

Well God bless on that.

Speaker 2

I'm I'm glad I was able to do that service for you.

Speaker 1

Okay.

Speaker 1

Here's my reason for wanting to talk to you directly.

Speaker 1

Uh what what is baptizing is supposed to be you cleansing them and you washing them okay.

Speaker 1

Here's my problem.

Speaker 1

Here's my problem.

Speaker 1

You baptize my kids, but ain't nothing changed.

Speaker 1

They they grade still bad, they still disobedient.

Speaker 1

I don't see where your baptizing is done.

Speaker 1

If you just let me finish, I don't see where your baptizing has done anything.

Speaker 2

Now okay, now you confuse me.

Speaker 2

I'm I'm not sure I think uh you know we need to stop this madness right now because you're talking about your money back, uh baptized.

Speaker 2

I I'm like to baptize your kids.

Speaker 2

I've been at this church up there for many years, so I I won't doubt that I'm probably the uh the pastor you you're looking for, but I just don't understand what you're trying to get at here about the baptism.

Speaker 1

I'm saying you're supposed to when when when people get baptized, it's supposed to change them.

Speaker 1

Am I right or wrong?

Speaker 2

A cleansing, okay.

Speaker 2

I see.

Speaker 1

Yes, cleanse them.

Speaker 1

But well my kids actually.

Speaker 2

I'm just trying to get to the bottom of this.

Speaker 2

You know, I mean, because you like I said when we get to the city, my church usually handles this.

Speaker 2

I still don't understand how you got my number.

Speaker 1

The bottom of it is your your baptizing ain't doing nothing.

Speaker 1

My kids still grave bad, they still disobey.

Speaker 2

Well, you're you'll be that why they haven't been coming to church?

Speaker 2

You say you're not going to any congregation.

Speaker 2

Maybe you guys need to come on back to church, sit in or some sermon.

Speaker 2

You know, I even work with you at one on one, but um I can't I can't do nothing about the grades in school.

Speaker 2

I mean, and and and and overall behavior.

Speaker 1

When you when you have baptized them, I should see a change in them, and I don't see a change.

Speaker 1

Well I

Speaker 2

I'm not getting anything.

Speaker 1

Hey man, all at the end of the day, Pat Henry, I want my money back.

Speaker 2

That's what that's what we have at the end of today.

Speaker 2

That's not that's Brother Davis.

Speaker 2

That's not how it works, brother.

Speaker 2

You hit you understand?

Speaker 2

I I I'm not I'm not trying to raise my voice at you, but you you're all over the you're all over the place.

Speaker 2

You want money back.

Speaker 2

You uh I I don't understand what can I do for you.

Speaker 1

I can tell you next.

Speaker 1

My kids, I done I done got them baptized over there with you.

Speaker 1

All that time I've gone to your church, I'm paying these tithes, paying these tithes, paying these time, and I get my kids baptized and the ties don't have nothing to do with the baptism, it has something to do with all the time I spent over there, and I'm not getting anything in return.

Speaker 2

How in the world am I gonna figure out how much time you pay?

Speaker 2

Did you ever think about that?

Speaker 1

I know exactly how to do it.

Speaker 2

No, no, no, no.

Speaker 2

You're calling my phone with this nonsense.

Speaker 2

You're not even a uh a member of my congregation, and I I just don't like it.

Speaker 2

So let me know.

Speaker 1

Who do you think you're raising your voice at, Pastor?

Speaker 1

Just because you got you're a man of the crowd, don't mean that.

Speaker 2

Just because I'm a man raised guy, don't mean I can't cut your f out.

Speaker 2

You understand that, brother?

Speaker 2

If it's something you need to deal with, you need to talk to the people at the church.

Speaker 1

Why do I need to talk to Brother Dobbs when I'm talking to you?

Speaker 2

Because I do not have to be able to do that.

Speaker 2

Oh, I'm the problem.

Speaker 1

I just put a bunch of tide money, and I won't, I know exactly how much I spent over there, and I want my money back.

Speaker 2

Brother, how about that?

Speaker 2

That's what I care about your tithe.

Speaker 2

I said, f your tithe.

Speaker 2

You want me to spell it out?

Speaker 1

Oh, well, here come things.

Speaker 2

Are you kidding me?

Speaker 1

Look at him, look what it's spell out.

Speaker 2

I bet they know how to spell it.

Speaker 1

Oh, okay.

Speaker 2

Don't be calling me about no damn behavior issues with your kids.

Speaker 2

Are you baptized?

Speaker 2

That's the question you need to be asking.

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Is you living your life sanctified?

Huh?

Speaker 2

You you know what?

Speaker 2

You know what, brother?

Speaker 2

I I didn't got out beside myself, and I'm sorry, brother.

Speaker 2

I I should not be using foul language against you.

Speaker 2

I think.

Speaker 2

what's going on.

Speaker 2

We need to we need to get you and your children, your wife, come on down to service on Sunday.

Speaker 2

I will sit with you as long as I can.

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I truly I truly think counseling and talk is the only way out of this.

Speaker 2

We should not be fighting on this phone.

Speaker 2

Yes, yes sir.

Speaker 2

Now once again I I I hope you accept my apology for my language.

Speaker 2

Can I answer something?

Speaker 2

Go ahead, son, I can hear you.

Speaker 1

Okay, Brother Dobbs tells me that you and him are together.

Speaker 1

Y'all together some mornings having coffee you and Brother Dobbs are?

Speaker 2

Every morning did that I'm not at any uh function or doing something for the building maintenance with the church.

Speaker 2

Yeah we we definitely he's a good brother like I told you I've known him for many years.

Speaker 1

Right, right.

Speaker 1

And he's saying now when y'all having coffee that y'all y'all listening to the radio is is is is that right?

Speaker 1

Yeah well I suppose do y'all be listening to the Steve Harvey Morning Show?

Speaker 2

Yeah, it's always on the radio

Speaker 1

this is nephew Tommy man from the Steve Harvey Morning Show.

Speaker 1

Brother Dobbs just got me the prank phone call you know

Speaker 2

Now we we let

Speaker 2

so brother Dobbs knew about this.

Speaker 1

He the one gave me your number

Speaker 2

I'm too scared to cuss another word

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out of my character.

Speaker 2

I didn't think I didn't get enough for a lifetime with that.

Speaker 2

I'ma tell you right now I'm I'm probably as real as they come and I I tell my congregation all the time I even slip up.

Speaker 2

So I think it would only be right if you

Speaker 2

play

Speaker 1

let me ask you something man.

Speaker 1

What is the baddest and I'm talking about the bad is this twenty Oh man you already know man the Steve Harvey Morning Show.

Speaker 1

There you go.